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P0727Engine Speed Input Circuit No Signal

  • Generic OBD-II code · Powertrain
  • Turns on the check-engine light
  • Matters for the ITP
  • Can trigger limp mode
  • Needs a drive cycle to confirm a fix
How the car detects it
The transmission module needs engine speed for converter slip, shift quality and to check the turbine speed. Today it almost always arrives over CAN from the engine module with a validity flag; only GM's 2007 Allison 1000 tables show a separate engine speed sensor read by the transmission module. P0727 means the engine speed signal is missing although the transmission is turning. The Allison 1000 flags under 61 rpm for 4 s with turbine speed of 400 rpm or more, after two trips; Saab's 9-3 of 2000 input speed above 2000 rpm for more than 5 s without engine speed; a 2006 GM table the CAN engine speed failing to answer. The module then works without converter slip information, usually locks out the converter clutch and may enter limp mode.
What you may notice
  • Transmission warning lamp, possibly check engine light
  • Torque converter clutch locked out
  • Harsh shifts or limp mode
  • Often an engine code (crankshaft sensor) as well
Likely causes
  • LikelyEngine speed wire or connector open, or own sensor (Allison) faulty
  • PossibleCAN communication between engine and transmission module disturbed
  • PossibleCrankshaft sensor fault in the engine module
  • RareTransmission module faulty
Inspection (ITP)
Matters for the ITP. While the check-engine light is on, the car fails the emissions check.
Repair
Medium · Often possible to do yourself.Typical cost: €60 – €400

Explanation from obdex (CC0), exactly as the app shows it. Guidance only; confirm with a workshop.